Basketball records updated
The state basketball tournament records have been updated with the 2013 results.
–patrick
Undefeated basketball teams in Wyoming
Many people are caught by surprise when I mention that Wyoming-football.com has the results of every state basketball tournament game listed on the website, as well.
Although the basketball results don’t paint as complete a picture as the football results do (the basketball results are state tournament only), they do allow us to see how teams who qualified for state finished their respective seasons.
With the basketball regular season starting this week, I’d like to go a bit deeper, though, and find the record of every Wyoming state basketball champion.
I have the records of all state champions since 1999, but prior to that it gets a little (OK, a lot) shaky.
One of the reasons I want to do this is to have a little fun in the offseason with this blog. I’d like to post, for example, every undefeated state champion the state has ever had. In all, I have the records for 14 girls basketball teams and 13 boys teams that have finished a season unbeaten (updated 11-28-12; thanks to Cory Griffith for his help with the Lusk info!). But I know the list is incomplete.
Here is my list to this point, in reverse chronological order broken down by gender:
Girls
Snake River 2012 (28-0)
Tongue River 2005 (23-0)
Douglas 2005 (26-0)
Big Horn 2001 (26-0)
Burlington 1998 (24-0)
Mountain View 1998 (24-0)
Tongue River 1997 (22-0)
Lyman 1995 (23-0)
Gillette 1991 (23-0)
Lusk 1991 (22-0)
Lusk 1990 (21-0)
Riverton 1984 (23-0)
Rock Springs 1980 (24-0)
Lander 1978 (24-0)
Boys
Snake River 2012 (28-0)
Big Horn 2011 (28-0)
Thermopolis 2004 (25-0)
Cheyenne Central 1991 (23-0)
Torrington 1987 (23-0)
Southeast 1981 (22-0)
Glenrock 1978 (23-0)
Mountain View 1977 (24-0)
Lusk 1969 (23-0)
Goshen Hole 1967 (23-0)
Cheyenne Central 1962 (27-0)
University Prep 1961 (25-0)
St. Stephens 1960 (28-0)
I’m also compiling an unofficial list of state basketball champs who finished the season with losing records. So far, I’ve only found two: St. Stephens boys in 2004 (11-17) and Pine Bluffs girls in 1994 (10-12).
Eventually, I do want the records of ALL state championship-winning teams, but being in Wyoming does limit my ability to research this much. … Nevertheless, it’s a project that’s been on the backburner for awhile and I wanted to put it out there to share.
First of all — do any readers out there know of any undefeated state champions that aren’t on the lists above? Post a comment below, and if you can, link to some documentation (scan of a newspaper article, for example, or a link to a site where I could verify a record). If you don’t want to post, you’re always welcome to email me information at pschmiedt@yahoo.com.
Conversely, if you happen to know the record of a state champ I have listed without a record, feel free to let me know (with as much documentation as you can provide to verify). Even if they weren’t undefeated, I would eventually like to know the records for all the state championship teams. First, double check to make sure I don’t already have the record listed, and then let me know!
Thanks!
–patrick
State basketball history
In addition to all the football stuff I have posted on this site, I have the state basketball tournament history scores available on this site, too. Click here to check it out. A gentle reminder from yours in high school sports…
Be safe the next couple weeks, whether you’re headed to basketball, wrestling, swimming, skiing, or indoor track.
–patrick
Updates: 2010, 1930-32, coaches and basketball
Well, the big update is done. The 1930, 1931, 1932 and 2010 seasons have been uploaded to the site. All the updates should be on all the relevant pages. If you don’t know where to start, check out the updated scoring records page and also the streaks page. I’ll have blog posts talking about the specific updates that those pages saw soon.
This site’s official total of logged games is now up to 20,814.
In addition to that, I’ve also made the following updates:
Coaches Project: In addition to adding coaches for 1930-32 and 2010, I’ve had updates for Cowley, Byron, Manderson, Hanna, Burlington, Huntley and Goshen Hole. Thanks to a few helping hands, Jerry Patrick in Burlington, Mark Bullington in Yoder and Shane Schaffner in Basin, for their help on this! Click here to see what I’m still missing.
Basketball: Mad props to someone only identified as Bill, who e-mailed me with the one score I was missing to complete my basketball tournament research — Rawlins’ 66-58 victory over Reliance in the 1953 Class A consolation semifinals. I now have listed EVERY SINGLE SCORE from the state basketball tournament, all the way back to its inception in 1918!! Yay! Thanks, Bill! (Is four exclamation points enough? No!)
Bill also caught an error I had listed in the 2000 Class 4A boys state tournament. Sheridan beat Central for the consolation championship that year. I had listed Natrona beating Sheridan for the consolation title after beating Central in the consolation semis; Central actually beat Natrona in the consolation semis before losing to the Broncs. The listing has been corrected to reflect this change.
If you didn’t know that I also list the scores from every state basketball tournament game on this site, too, well, I do. Click here to check those scores out.
–patrick
New ADM figures posted by WHSAA
The Wyoming High School Activities Association this week posted the ADM figures for the next round of reclassification — decisions the group will make this fall to start in the fall of 2011. Click here to see them (Adobe Acrobat required).
Obviously, the ramifications of reclassification, and the new ADMs, go beyond football. The big change for fall 2011 will be the addition of Cheyenne South, which adds one more school into the jumble and presents some interesting new questions. I wrote at this time last year that the WHSAA has some tough decisions to make when it comes to South’s addition to football. The new numbers make it even more so….
Reclassification always causes some hang-ups along the line. This cycle, with South, makes it especially interesting.
For now, 4A football and conferences for the other 4A sports appear to be the most contentious subjects of reclassification this year.
In a nutshell, the WHSAA needs to decide on a number for 4A football, and every other classification decision can cascade down from there. Will 4A have 10 teams in it, like now, with South in 4A and Green River (now 12th in ADMs) bumped to 3A? Or will it have 11 — with Riverton (ADM 11th) forced in, or with Green River possibly opting up? Or will it have 12 with BOTH Riverton and Green River?
From there, deciding on the number of teams for 3A, 2A and 1A divisions will become much easier. Until then, we can’t really speculate on which teams will be in which classifications…
Oh, and one extra wrench for the WHSAA to deal with: South is not anticipating a varsity schedule in 2011, the first year of the new reclassification cycle.
This year is also the opportunity for 1A teams to decide if they want to play six-man or 11-man. Has anyone heard anything about current 11-man teams prepping for a move to six-man? Or vice-versa? Those decisions, too, will help guide the WHSAA’s decision-making for both classifications and conferences.
As for 4A conference divisions — something that has dogged the WHSAA for the past four years, even though they try to stay out of it as much as possible and technically don’t even set conferences, only regions for regional tournaments — that gets fun with South coming in and Star Valley (ADM 13th) likely leaving to go back to 3A. It’s either really easy (Evanston, Riverton, Green River, Rock Springs and the two Casper schools in the West, Gillette, Sheridan, Laramie and the three Cheyenne schools in the East) or it’s really hard. Knowing how those discussions have gone over the past four years, it’ll be really hard.
Otherwise, everything else looks pretty straightforward for all sports except football. Star Valley with ADM 13 appears headed back to 3A for everything but football; Thermopolis, ranked 31st, will head back to 2A; and Lingle, hanging out in the 49th spot, will go to 1A for all except football.
For football, as explained earlier, the speculations about which teams might end up in which classifications is a little premature. But IF the WHSAA sticks with its 10-12-16 split for 4A, 3A and 2A, and IF no teams opt up or down, then it looks like Green River will move to 3A, Wheatland will go to 2A and Wyoming Indian will head to 1A.
(If you don’t know what ADM is, it stands for Average Daily Membership and it’s based on projected enrollment numbers. Check out the WHSAA front page to read up on that.)
The ADMs, with two-year averages (of course, you can click here and see the full numbers all pretty-like):
1. Gillette, 2,216
2. Natrona, 2,023
3. East, 1,556
4. Kelly Walsh, 1,447
5. Rock Springs, 1,397
6. Central, 1,352
7. Laramie, 1,040
8. Sheridan, 922
9. South, 910
10. Evanston, 900
11. Riverton, 777
12. Green River, 767
13. Star Valley, 734
14. Cody, 690
15. Jackson, 654
16. Lander, 502
17. Douglas, 500
18. Powell, 480
19. Rawlins, 478
20. Torrington, 389
21. Worland, 378
22. Buffalo, 345
23. Pinedale, 310
24. Wheatland, 286
25. Newcastle, 248
26. Mountain View, 226
27. Lyman, 225
28. Glenrock, 219
29. Lovell, 214
30. Big Piney, 203
31. Thermopolis, 201
32. Kemmerer, 183
33. Burns, 183
34. Wright, 178
35. Greybull, 167
36. Moorcroft, 163
37. Tongue River, 145
38. Big Horn, 140
39. Wind River, 132
40. Wyoming Indian, 124
41. Rocky Mountain, 117
42. Southeast, 117
43. Sundance, 113
44. Lusk, 113
45. Pine Bluffs, 109
46. Shoshoni, 103
47. Riverside, 97
48. Saratoga, 97
49. Lingle, 92
50. Upton, 85
51. Burlington, 80
52. Snake River, 71
53. Hanna, 71
54. St. Stephens, 70
55. Fort Washakie Charter, 65
56. Hulett, 64
57. Guernsey-Sunrise, 64
58. Cokeville, 63
59. Farson, 61
60. Normative Services, 60
61. Dubois, 58
62. Midwest, 55
63. Kaycee, 51
64. Arapaho Charter, 51
65. Ten Sleep, 39
66. Encampment, 36
67. Rock River, 33
68. Meeteetse, 33
69. Arvada-Clearmont, 33
70. Glendo, 20
71. Chugwater, 18
I love seeing the enrollment figures come out every two years — partly because where these numbers fall have a huge influence on what schools do for two years, partly because I’m a reclass nerd. Granted, enrollment numbers aren’t everything, as success is also determined by hard work, attitude, community support, etc., etc., blah blah blah. But they’re a big piece of the puzzle.
Thoughts? Ideas? Concerns? Questions? Post ‘em below. I’m always down for a reclass chat.
–patrick
Updates: State basketball scores (and some Shrine Bowl)
I finished researching the 1924 state basketball tournament, and posted it here, and now you can check out every score from every state basketball tournament, boys and girls. Well, almost every one — I’m still missing the score of the 1953 Class A consolation semifinal game between Rawlins and Reliance. Rawlins won it, but for the life of me I can’t find the score. Help!
Updates will be slower throughout the summer, as I will be concentrating my efforts on researching backward through time. I have researched through 1937, with the eventual (self-imposed) goals of reaching 1920 by the end of the summer and the 19th century by Christmas. And then I’ll be putting together that book thingy…. Keep checking this blog for more details on that project.
Newsbreak: Shrine Bowl recaps from the Cody Enterprise, Douglas Budget and Kemmerer Gazette.
–patrick
Updates: Goshen Hole, Burns, Saratoga… seeking a Hulett coach… and state basketball scores
The late 1960s were a crazy time in the southeastern corner of Wyoming. Goshen Hole, the precursor to what is now Southeast, started its program in 1966, and Burns followed a year later. I spent a big portion of this week trying to track down more information on the first seasons of these two programs and found a couple games to update.
I added two games to Burns’ first season, both losses to the Pine Bluffs JV squad — 27-20 on Oct. 3 and 41-26 on Oct. 18. (These two losses extended Burns’ winless streak in that span to 24 games, a change updated on the streaks page.)
I also found the score for Goshen Hole’s 54-19 loss to Harrisburg, Neb., on Sept. 30, 1966, knocking it off the missing games list in the process.
My research also turned up two more new games, courtesy of the Byes Project. I added Huntley’s 33-6 loss to Lyman, Neb., sometime between Sept. 12-16, 1967 (added to the missing games list because I couldn’t pin down a date or a location) and Midwest’s 32-7 victory over Glendo on Sept. 3, 1965.
I also took care of two missing games for Saratoga’s 1955 season. I found the score, date and location for Saratoga’s 18-12 loss to the Rawlins JV on Oct. 4 and the score for Saratoga’s 13-0 loss to the Laramie JV on Oct. 13.
Coaches Project: I didn’t add any new coaches, but I did fix a couple discrepancies where I had two coaches coaching at two different schools in the same season.
I updated Green River’s coach in 1969; it was Chuck Shelton, not Jerry Hart. I had Jerry Hart listed as coaching in both Green River and Star Valley in 1969, so I double-checked and Hart was in Afton while Shelton had the reins in Green River.
I also ran into this problem with Rand Klatt, who I had listed as coaching both Pinedale and Hulett in 1965. I double-checked, and Klatt was in Pinedale that year. So now I’m looking hard to find out who Hulett’s coach was in 1965. So far, no luck. If you know, leave a comment below!
Basketball: I have updated the scores I was missing for the state basketball tournaments in 1923, 1925, 1929 and 1930. The years 1925, 1929 and 1930 didn’t need much research done for them, but 1923 had to be built up and researched basically from scratch. The year 1924 still need some additional research, but I hope to have that completed within the next couple weeks. We’ll see…. Click here to see this side project, every score from every state basketball tournament (except, obviously, for 1924).
–patrick
Basketball updates: State tournament scores from 1932 to the present
Since the 1A-2A state basketball tournaments are this week, and the 3A-4A tournaments are next week, I figured it was about time to do some updates to the state basketball tournament research I’ve been doing in between the football work that takes up the bulk of this site (and my time).
So, if you want to see the state basketball tournament scores from 1932 to the present, as well as a few tournaments prior to then, click here. It’s not really pretty, but the scores are all there, and for me, for now, that’s good enough.
Every score from every tournament, boys and girls, from 1932 forward, is posted there — with one exception. I still can’t find a score for a consolation semifinal game from the 1953 Class A tournament between Rawlins and Reliance. But other than that, every other score is there. Check it out.
By the way, as a Midwest High School alumnus, I’ve got to give mad props real quick to the Oilers, who won the 1A East Regional championship on Saturday. Midwest hasn’t been to the state semis since 1953, and if the Oilers can beat Ten Sleep on Thursday, they’ll end that way-too-long dry spell.
–patrick
Let the counting stop for the Rawlins girls
Just a quick post here to recognize the Rawlins girls basketball team, which ended a string of 76 consecutive losses by beating Newcastle last Saturday.
Rawlins Times SE Kirk Hanna put together a nice story about the Outlaws’ victory that has since been picked up by the AP — click here to read it.
I’ve got a little connection to the team, as I wrote a feature story about the streak last winter. Click here to read it.
The 76 consecutive losses is an unofficial state record, breaking the old unofficial mark of 63 straight losses the Kemmerer boys had in the late 1980s. In case you’re counting, it was 1,140 calendar days since Rawlins last won…. but now, no one has to count anymore.
–patrick
Basketball updates
In addition to the football research I’m doing, I am also deep into researching the state basketball tournaments, as well. I have posted most of the scores from the state tournaments — albeit in rudimentary form — at the basketball arm of this site.
The research for the girls tournaments is complete; I have every score from every girls state tournament game from the modern era (1976-2009).
The boys’ research, obviously, is a bit more complex, simply because the tournaments for boys stretch back much farther. However, I have obtained ALL BUT ONE score from 1946 forward.
The only score missing from the last 64 years is a consolation semifinal game from the Class A tournament in 1953, in which Rawlins defeated Reliance. I have looked in seven different newspaper microfilms for the score — the Casper Tribune-Herald, the Powell Tribune, the Laramie Republican Boomerang, the Rawlins Daily Times, the Rock Springs Daily Rocket/Rock Springs Miner, the Thermpolis Independent Record and the Wyoming State Tribune — and none of them had it. I’m up against a wall here so I’m appealing to YOU for help on this one…. If you can find it, let me know, and I’ll be forever appreciative.
Prior to 1946 is a bit more sketchy, but I haven’t put in a ton of time on those years yet, either.
Click here to jump to the basketball info.
–patrick